Sunday, June 7, 2009

Sikhs and Radhaswami


Some malicious plan is being drafted by Gurinder Singh Dhillon (head Dera Radhaswami) as he paid a sudden visit to Darbar sahib last month on 25th Sep 2012. Now he might have invited Mohan Bhagwat to discuss his plan as the news of attack on KS Brar was highlighted in media. 

But soon the secret of his visit was revealed when a devotee took a picture of him suffering from Cancer. This picture was taken by his mobile. 

Now it was clear that gurinder Singh Dhillon visited Darbar sahib to pray before Sri guru granth Sahib ji for his health and to get relieved from Cancer. There was not any political reason behind his visit. (Kindly view the picture below):-


                                   Gurinder Singh Dhillon


Something wrong is going to happen very soon in Punjab. The Sikh world need to be cautious and alert in near future. there are millions of Sikh followers in Dera Beas, may be in their ignorance of their religion and guru's preaching or may bu due to false propaganda and appearance of their Gurus in Sikh guise but this meeting with Chief of RSS has made us suspicious that there must be some conspiracy against Sikhs is being planned so we need to be more alert in near future.

Please be cautious from both of them and their anti-Sikh agenda.



Jalandhar/Beas (October 19, 2012): According to media reports Hindutva organization Rashtriya Swayam-Sewak Sangh (RSS)’s chief Mohan Bhagwat has met Gurinder Singh Dhillon, head of a Beas based dera, named Radha Soami Dera Beas. “YesPunjab”, a web based news service by senior journalist H. S. Bawa has carried following detailed report in this regard:-

“Rashtriya Swayam Sewak Sangh (RSS) chief Mohan Bhagwat specially came to Punjab to have a meeting with Baba Gurinder Singh Dhillon, the head of Radha Soami sect at the sect headquarters located at Beas. Probably it was the first meeting of any RSS Chief with any of the heads of Dera Radha Soami.

The meeting took place on Thursday morning. Bhagwat and Baba Gurinder Singh Dhillon reportedly met for almost an hour. No details of the meeting were made available to media by either RSS or Dera Beas. It could not be known what was the agenda of the meeting and what transpired between the two.


Dera Beas chief visit to Golden Temple sparks fresh controversy
Yudhvir Rana, TNN | Sep 26, 2012, 07.32PM IST

AMRITSAR: Paying obeisance by Chief of Radha Swami Satsang Dera Beas Baba Gurinder Singh at Golden Temple on Wednesday has sparked a new controversy here. According to reports Baba Gurinder Singh arrived at Golden Temple in the morning like a humble Sikh and paid obeisance. 

He reportedly remained in the sanctum sanctorum for half an hour and also received siropa (robe of honour) besides paying obeisance at Akal Takht. Commenting on his visit to Golden Temple, Jathedar of Akal Takht Giani Gurbachan Singh said that "His visit to Golden Temple proves that he is not a Guru but the real Guru is Guru Granth Sahib". 

He said a Sikh could never proclaim to be a Guru and advised Baba Gurinder Singh to propagate Shabad Guru. Chief of Dera Beas who enjoys Z plus security was reportedly accompanied by three persons including his security chief Sarabjit Singh Bedi and former Superintendent of police Paramdeep Singh Teja. 

Surprisingly Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee officials expressed ignorance of Dera chief's visit to Golden Temple. Notably Jathedar of Akal Takht Giani Gurbachan Singh had given clean chit to Dera Beas in case of alleged demolition of a Gurdwara at village Waraich despite severe opposition by various Sikh organizations who even gave a call to boycott Jathedar of Akal Takht. Dal Khalsa spokesperson Kanwarpal Singh said that "Paying obeisance by Beas Dera chief at Golden Temple and bowing before Guru Granth Sahib could be construed as a positive signal " However he said it was yet to be seen whether he discard the practice of proclaiming himself as living Guru and accept Guru Granth Sahib as his eternal Guru. "There are so many if's and but's and unanswered questions yet" he said. 

Sources informed that Baba Gurinder Singh paid obeisance at Golden Temple to earn goodwill and improve his image among Sikhs especially after bad publicity earned by Dera in Waraich Gurdwara incident since a large number of Sikhs are the followers of Dera Beas

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/Dera-Beas-chief-visit-to-Golden-Temple-sparks-fresh-controversy/articleshow/16558270.cms?intenttarget=no


DERA BE-AAS (without hopes) OR BIAS? Please find  out yourself.
ਗੁਰੂ ਦੀ ਸੰਗਤ ਜੋ ਬਿਆਸ ਦੇ ਲਾਗੇ ਲਾਗੇ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ.,,, ਓਹ ਜਦੋਂ ਡੇਰੇ ਦੇ ਲਾਗੋੰ ਨਿਕਲਦੀ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਮੁੰਹ ਪਰੇ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਲੰਘਦੀ ਹੈ, ਕਿਓਂਕਿ ਓਹ ਰਾਧਾ ਸੁਆਮੀਆਂ ਨੂ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਚੋਰ ਆਖਦੇ ਨੇ.. ਇਹ ਪ੍ਰਥਾ ਸਿਖਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਪ੍ਰਚਲਿਤ ਹੋ ਗਈ ਹੈ !
!! ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਚੋਰ - ਰਾਧਾਸੁਆਮੀ !!

GURBANI CHOR ----- RADHASWAMI



The Dera Bias has demolished a Gurudwara in village Varainch and the prompt reaction is received from all over the world. Though it is already known that they do not have faith in Sri Guru Granth sahib ji as Guru but to demolish a Gurudwara in Punjab is itself a challenge to Sikhs all over the world and specially to Punjab govt which so far has provided all facilities to dera Bias for it’s vote bank but whether Badal govt. shall take any action—-that has to be seen yet .

It’s an attempt to harass the people of nearby villages to sold out their properties and valuable land at through away prices under fear of them otherwise they may be ready to face day to day problems of electricity, paths and water storing in dug land around their houses.

Please see both the attached pictures here:

Radhasoami and Dasuya elections go hand in hand. Dera does not want a Gurdwara in their PRINCELY ESTATE. All riff raffs should be kept out of DERA according to their philosophy.

Sikhs protesting will be arrested, prosecuted and beaten up after DASUYA bye elections.

Chief Secretary Punjab and DGP are both DERA followers.

Before 2002 elections they had formalised FULL one sector in capital region Mohali with help of Akalis. Similarly this regularisation using MICRO to MACRO manipulations of politicians and bureaucracy from PATWARI to Chief Secretary they would have reached agreement with Akalis.

Nanhi Chaan is also Radhasoami sponsored. Radhasoami BEAS DERA gets funds from Loreal Cosmetics foundation for Nanhi Chaan while SGPC spends money.

Dera Beas is world's most sophisticated LAND MAFIA. If audited chain and magnitude will be far in excess of TIRUPATI, Nirmal Baba or Sai Baba trusts.

Who will bell the cat by asking for their expenses. Individual protesters will either be beaten up or bought in few days time.

Waraich Gurdwara Sahib of Sikh Sangat with its history should be much more important then Virasat-e-Khalsa or Minars which are been constructed to fool Sikhs.

Punjab government should be asked to stop construction of Minars and should be asked to stop destruction of Gurdwara Sahib Waraich.





ਪੰਜਾਬ ਵਿੱਚ ਚੱਲਦੇ ਡੇਰਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਕਦੇ ਕਦੇ ਤਾਂ ਸਰਕਾਰ ਦੀ ਅਤੇ ਰਾਜਨੀਤਕ ਪਾਰਟੀਆਂ ਦੀ ਸਰਪ੍ਰਸਤੀ ਸਾਹਮਣੇ ਆ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ,ਜਿਵੇਂ ਕਿ ਅੱਜ ਰਾਧਾ ਸਵਾਮੀ ਵਾਲੇ ਡੇਰੇ ਬਾਰੇ ਤਾਜਾ ਖਬਰ ਆਈ ਹੈਇਹ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਸਰਕਾਰ ਦੇ ਥਾਪੜੇ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋ ਸਕਦਾ ਜਿਵੇਂ ਬਿਆਸ ਦੀ ਕਰੋੜਾਂ ਰੁਪਏ ਦੀ ਜਮੀਨ ਡੇਰੇ ਦੇ ਨਾਂ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਗਈ ਹੈਸਰਕਾਰੀ ਹਾਈ ਸਕੂਲ ਬੱਲ ਸਰਾਏ ਦੀ ਜਮੀਨ ਗੈਰਕਨੂੰਨੀ ਢੰਗ ਨਾਲ ਰਾਧਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਸੱਤਸੰਗ ਬਿਆਸ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਗਈ ਹੈਅੱਜ ਪ੍ਰਾਪਤ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਇਹ ਜਿਲਾ ਪ੍ਰੀਸ਼ਦ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਵਾਲੀ ਇਹ ਜਮੀਨ ਵਿੱਤ ਕਮਿਸ਼ਨਰ ਪੰਜਾਬ ਸਰਕਾਰ,ਪੇਂਡੂ ਵਿਕਾਸ ਅਤੇ ਪੰਚਾਇਤ ਵਿਭਾਗ ਦੇ ਪੱਤਰ ਨੰਬਰ 25-1-08 /5-3548 ਨੂੰ ਡੇਰਾ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਤਬਦੀਲ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤੀ ਹੈਕਰੋੜਾਂ ਦੀ ਜਮੀਨ ਅੰਦਰਖਾਤੇ ਡੇਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਜਾਣ ਕਾਰਨ ਪਿੰਡ ਬੱਲ ਸਰਾਏ ਦੇ ਵਸਨੀਕ ਨਰਾਜ਼ ਹਨਇੱਕ ਅਖਬਾਰ ਮੁਤਾਬਿਕ ਪਿੰਡ ਬੱਲਸਰਾਏ ਦੇ ਸਰਕਾਰੀ ਹਾਈ ਸਕੂਲ ਅਤੇ ਐਲੀਮੈਂਟਰੀ ਸਕੂਲ ਜੋ ਕਿ ਮਹਿਕਮੇ ਦੀ ਖਾਤਾ ਖਤੌਨੀ ਨੰ; 333-851 ਮੁਰੱਬਾ ਨੰ:99-1 ਰਕਬਾ 12-2 ਮਰਲੇ ਜ਼ਿਲਾ ਪ੍ਰੀਸ਼ਦ ਦੇ ਨਾਮ ਦਰਜ ਹੈ,ਜਿਸ ਦੀ ਬਜ਼ਾਰੀ ਕੀਮਤ ਪ੍ਰਤੀ ਮਰਲਾ 75000-80000 ਰੁਪਏ ਹੈ ਪੰਚਾਇਤ ਨੇ ਡੇਰਾ ਰਾਧਾ ਸਵਾਮੀ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਬੰਧਕਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਮਿਲ ਕੇ ਮਹਿੰਗੀ ਕੀਮਤ ਦੀ ਜ਼ਮੀਨ ਡੇਰੇ ਨੂੰ ਦੇ ਕੇ ਸਸਤੇ ਰੇਟ ਦੀ ਦੁਗਣੀ ਜਮੀਨ ਦਾ ਤਬਾਦਲਾ ਕਰਨ ਦਾ ਮਤਾ ਪਾ ਕੇ ਪੰਚਾਇਤੀ ਵਿਭਾਗ ਨੂੰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਸੀਕਮਿਸ਼ਨਰ ਨੇ ਫੈਸਲਾ ਕਰਦੇ ਹੋਏ ਤਬਾਦਲਾ ਕਰਨ ਦੇ ਹੁਕਮ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਅਤੇ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਇੰਤਕਾਲ ਕਰ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਗਿਆ
Radhaswami sect was earlier started by an ex-communicated Sikh who was habitual of smoking Bidi’sHukka and other sort of tobbaco use, which is restricted in Sikh religion. They do not restrict smoking to their followers but use of other intoxications like use of liquor or eating meat is prohibited in their sect. It's mentioned in their holy book 'SAAR-BACHAN', by their first Guru Shiv Dayal Singh that;

"Hukka bhar ke daasi liaayi, ਹੁਕ਼ਾ ਭਰ ਕੇ ਦਾਸੀ ਲਿਆਈ !
Radhasuami dhid baith pilaayi, ਰਾਧਾਸੁਆਮੀ ਢਿਡ ਬੈਠ ਪਿਲਾਈ !
Hukka haq haq boli bola. ਹੁਕ਼ਾ ਹਕ਼ ਹਕ਼ ਬੋਲੀ ਬੋਲਾ !

Baba jaimal Singh and Baba Sawan Singh of Beas were Sikhs, so his followers chant,"Satguru haq haq boli bola" ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਹਕ਼ ਹਕ਼ ਬੋਲੀ ਬੋਲਾ ! in lieu of 'Hukaa haq haq boli bola'.

Further he orders his disciples to grab the Gurparsadi straight in their opened mouths.....


One thing is found common in this sect like Nirankari mission - that the disciples of the sect are advised to eat the leftover of their Guru, mixed in community kitchens (Bhandara), called Gur-parsaadi, Spit or tasted water etc, thrown out of mouth of Guru to be accepted cheerfully by disciple and to drink is considered nectar.





"Gur parsaadi khaah Tere bhale ki kahun.." ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਖਾਹ ਤੇਰੇ ਭਲੇ ਕੀ ਕਹੂੰ ! (saar Bachan).
"Kiaa charnamrit layi prasaadi ! Haar charaa kar bandagi saadhi...... ਕੀਆ ਚਰਨਾਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਲਈ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ! ਹਾਰ ਚੜਾ ਕਰ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਸਾਧੀ !
upto.......

"Kulli dayi suaami Kul mera udhara ! Janam safal aur tan man sudhara !" ਕੁੱਲੀ ਦਈ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਕੁਲ ਮੇਰਾ ਉਧਾਰਾ ! ਜਨਮ ਸਫਲ ਔਰ ਤਨ ਮਨ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ ! Page 779.
Baani changed from Agra to Beas.
As I studied somewhere long back that this name Radha + Swami was formed by that ex-communicated Sikh Granthi and Keertania deployed at Gurudwara Maai Thaan, AGRA. Shiv Dayal Singh alias SUAMI was his name but because of he was habitual of smoking Hukka, Bidi and other forms of tobbaco, he was ex-communicated from Sikh Panth. Radha was the name of his wife and Swami to her husband. So Radha + Swami came in existence and the sect called as Radhaswami sect. This is copied from RADHA-KRISHAN.

There are three factions of this group:--
(One) -of Agra, which they claim that the sect was started from Agra.

(Two)-of Sant Jaimal singh ji of Beas, which is famous than Agra and the ,

(Three)-Of Sant Kirpal Singh ji which is a breakaway group from Beas.


The followers of this sect are from all religions.
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RADHASWAMIS HAVE NO RELIGION.


Especially Sikhs which are generally attracted towards Saadhus or Saints. They (Sikhs) feel honored serving, providing food etc. to Saadhus. Due to this politeness and kind heartedness, when Sant Jaimal singh visited Beas and stayed outskirts of village to meditate, the villagers gathered and brought food , Lassi , Milk etc. in his service. Sant Jaimal Singh got pleased and told the villagers that he wanted to build a Gurudwara in the village and thus needs some land. The villagers felt honored by his decision and the Nabardaar/President of village Beas agreed to provide land for the Gurudwara but villagers were intelligent. How could they trust a stranger so they insisted to register the land in the name of Sri Guru Granth Saheb Ji.

The name of the heads of village Bal saraan who registered this land in the name of Guru Granth Sahab ji were----Lalu Namabardaar, Mehtaab Singh, Bhan Singh, Bur Singh, Sher Singh and Gurditt Singh ji. This was the first instance of its kind where the Registry of any piece of land was to be named after the Holy book/which was bestowed as Guru of Sikh religion by 10th Guru Gobind Singh ji and which guides the Sikhs in their spiritual and materialistic needs in this world as there is no living person as Guru in Sikh religion.

Present Guru of Radhaswami sect.....

Earlier Gurinder Singh Dhillon used to cut his daarhi (Beard), when he was settled in Spain. He kept his daarhi in 1992 when he started living fulll time in Beas.
British agreed to transfer the land in the name of Guru Granth Sahab ji, Registry no. 254, dated 14 June 1897.( Measures 11 Kanal, 16 Marla)The land was given to Baba Jaimal singh to build the Gurudwara in villaege. It is mentioned in registry. "Guru Granth Sahab wakiyaa dharamsala muntjim baa-eh-tamaam Jaimal Simgh saadh jatt. The land could never be transferred to any living person and still this land which is in use by the sect is the property of Guru Granth Sahib ji (or to say, of the Sikh religion).

The remark in verification of 'INTKAAL' is---Baba Jaimal Singh shall have no right to sell or mortgage, this will always be used as Dharmsala (Gurudwara).

This place was used as a Gurudwara for the first 55 years of the existence of Radhaswami sect.


This Picture is of 1948,when 2nd leader of Radhswamis Babu Sawan Singh died. After him Baba Jagat Singh was given the Dastar of Radhswamis and at his dastarbandi, Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj was Parkashed at Radhswami Dera Beas. All this Rasam of Dastarbandi happened after Ardas and Hukamnaama from Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj. That time Radhswamis were like another Samparda of Sikhs and believed fully in Gurta of Guru Granth Sahib ji. Here we can see Baba Jagat Singh sitting on right of Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj and behind him is Namdhari leader Baba Partap Singh.

After Baba Jagat Singh, Charan Singh was made the head of the sect, and at his Dastarbandi in 1951, Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj were Parkashed there. This proves that ATLEAST till 1951, Radhswamis had kept the sarup of Guru Granth Sahib ji at Dera Beas and had faith in eternal Guru - 'Guru Granth Sahib ji'.
Many families joined back Sikhi after looikng JUST this picture

After about 55 years they declared themselves Radhaswami - a sect.

Now starts the betrayal. Baba Jaimal singh passed away in 1903. His predecessor Sawan singh became head of sect. On 10th May 1905, the Intkaal no, changed to 536, Sawan Singh chela baa-raae. Mohatmim. Radhaswami sect Beas, which is very near to Amritsar - and to the highest temporal seat of Sikhs, Akal -Takhat was set there with a pre-planned mission to attract innocent and illiterate Sikhs from nearby villages to their sect as there is no living Guru in Sikh religion and it was very easy for these wicked and clever planners to fabricate their thoughts and mould them to convert the Sikhs from their own religion to the sect without disturbing their faith or religion. This way they could easily brain-wash these villagers and increase the strength of their followers which has shot up recently to 100 millions.

They copy the traditions of Sikh religion like Naam-Simran. Sikhs are blessed by their first Guru, Guru Naanak Dev ji has obliged his followers (Sikhs) by the Name of AKAL PURAKH to recite as WAHEGURU or SATNAAM WAHEGURU, means Thy name Waheguru is true. These Radhaswami people how could they allow their followers to chant Waheguru so they too copied it . now when they baptize to their followers they give a secret naam to chant which the follower have to keep secret from all others-from Sangat /congregation of followers, from their friends or family members, even they can’t share in between husband and wife.

Please visit this link also to know more about Radhaswamis
http://www.sikhfreedom.com/radha.html

This is against the Sikh religion and their code of conduct because the congregation is given the highest status in Sikhs where all they recite thy naam of Waheguru openly and loudly.

Fifth Guru Arjan Dev ji says,” ਹਮ ਧਨਵੰਤ ਭਾਗਠੁ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਇ !! ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਇ ਸਹਜੁ ਸੁਭਾਇ !! Ham dhanwant bhaagath sach naayen !! Har gun gaayen sahaj subhayen !!” Means We are richest as we recite thy name !! we chant thy naam in simple natural way !!

He further says,” ਖਾਵਹੁ ਖਰਚਹੁ ਰਲ ਮਿਲ ਭਾਈ !! ਤੋਟ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਵਧਦੋ ਜਾਈ !!
Khavhu kharchahu ral mil bhai !! Toat na aavey vadh do jaai !!” Means those who spend this storage of thy naam in congregation all together, there will be no shortage of this wealth to them of bestowed naam .

Hence like Ram Naam in temples or in any sect or religion people gather and recite thy Naam loudly to worship but in Radhaswami sect one disciple cannot disclose or share his bestowed Naam to his fellow worshipers.
So what kind of Sangat/Congregation is that. It is beyond the limits to express by me.

Guru Arjan Dev ji says that “ ਸੰਗਤ ਕੈਸੀ ਜਾਣੀਏ ਜਿਥੇ ਏਕੋ ਨਾਮ ਵਖਾਣੀਏ !!
SANGAT KAISI JAANIYE JITHE EKO NAAM VAKHAANIYE !!” Means that the true congregation is where only his naam is shared, recited and praised.

So
what kind of secret Naam is given to the disciples, what they chant in ignorance would be best known to them only but I try to define :--

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THE SIKHS ARE LIONS

These are the practices of Sikh religion not followed by Radhaswamis as,

(1)-Difference in -
Naam simran,

(2)- Difference in -
Naam Jap, Waheguru Gurmantra of Sikhs is not accepted by sect.

(3)- Karah parsaad - is not prepared by sect thus not distributed in disciples/sangat.

(4)
No Kirpan Bhenta - Kirpaan or Sword is not offered to Karaah-parsaad as it is not prepered but in Sikh religion, No Karaah parsaad is distributed without offering the holy Kirpaan.

(5)- Jo bole so nihaal-Sat siri akal - The Sikh battle cry is not in use at sect, they disallow it.

(6)-
Sikh when greet each other call by Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh - whereas Radhaswami greets by callingRadhaswamiji.' The difference in greeting too.

(7)-
Kesri Nissan Sahib - is not furled in sect which is holy sign of Sikh Gurudwaras.

(8)- Sikh Insignia (Khanda) :--Khanda is the emblem of the Sikh nation. It consists of two Kirpaans (the Sikh swords), one Khanda (double-edged sword) and one Chakkar (circle). The Sikhs have adopted it as an emblem of their royalty and nationality. The two swords represent spiritual and temporal sovereignty of the Sikh nation, the Chakkar symbolizes the wholeness of the universe as well as creation and the double-edged sword symbolizes initiation. Thus sovereignty, infinity and initiation are the three basic points of the Sikh national emblem.

In sect , they do not have any insignia of their own.

(9)-No free distribution of Langar- is served in community kitchen for the poors, needy and devotees as a mark to equality in disciples by sect. This tradition was started by Sikh Gurus which is in practice at every Gurudwara. Guru ji says " ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਤੇਰਾ !! Jo kichu hai so tera."

(10)-Recitation of their own Baani (Kacchi Baani) - in sect along with the pious Baani of Guru Granth Sahab ji, which is a disrespect to Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

(11)
- Amrit is not prepared - and not used to baptize their disciples or followers by sect.
(12)-The main tradition of Panj Pyare - is not followed in sect.

(13)-Use of
Liquor and meat is prohibited - but not the use of tobacco in followers by sect..

(14)-One thing is found common in this sect like Nirankari mission - that the disciples of the sect are advised to eat the leftover of their Guru, mixed in community kitchens (Bhandara), called Gur-parsaadi, Spit or tasted water etc, thrown out of mouth of Guru to be accepted cheerfully by disciple and to drink is considered nectar.





"Gur parsaadi khaah Tere bhale ki kahun.." ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਖਾਹ ਤੇਰੇ ਭਲੇ ਕੀ ਕਹੂੰ ! (saar Bachan).

"Kiaa charnamrit layi prasaadi ! Haar charaa kar bandagi saadhi...... ਕੀਆ ਚਰਨਾਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਲਈ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ! ਹਾਰ ਚੜਾ ਕਰ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਸਾਧੀ !
upto.......



"Kulli dayi suaami Kul mera udhara ! Janam safal aur tan man sudhara !" ਕੁੱਲੀ ਦਈ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਕੁਲ ਮੇਰਾ ਉਧਾਰਾ ! ਜਨਮ ਸਫਲ ਔਰ ਤਨ ਮਨ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ ! Page 779.

(15)- No condition to recite Nitnem - as they don’t have any such Baani to be recited, so camouflaging the followers to practice their own faith, along with their bestowed secret Naam , To whom they worship, what they worship other than Akal Purakh is best known to them because Sikhs have no living Guru.
(16)- Five Kakars not important to them - as anybody from any faith/religion could be a follower of their sect.

(17)- Their ARDAS in sect - is different than the Sikhs.

(18)- They believe in living Guru and bow before him - whereas in Sikhism there is no living man called as Guru.
(19)-How could Dasam Dwar be at third level as it is not a region - but is a doorway to Sachkhand? As preached to misguide the followers of sect.

At last i would like to disclose a very important thing to all disciples of Radhaswami sect that when they can not recite any Baani of their own on death of somebody, to pray for the peace upon the dead soul. Their Gurus or administrators also need to bow before Guru Granth Sahab ji to perform last rites. How could they provide you anything during your life time. I mean, Are they in position to fulfil your wishes of money, son, a home or any other materialistic need which some one prays to almighty Waheguru?

I have written some differences in Sikhs and Radhaswamis so how could they call them Sikhs- just by their appearance as Sikhs, dressed like Sikhs. Due to these resembles they can’t be called Sikhs. Guru Gobind Singh ji says,"Rahat piaari mohe Sikh piaara naahe!!" ਰਹਿਤ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਮੋਹਿ ਸਿਖ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਨਾਹਿ !! Means The devotees who recite the name of Akal Purakh, Live in displine and follow the bindings to Sikh Rahat Maryada-Namm simran, Reading Gurbaani only, and strictly follow the restriction issued at the time of Baptization (Amrit chakna)in Sikhi (Khalsa).

He is clear to his devotees that,"Jab eh gahe bipran ki reet !! Main na karon inki parteet !!" ਜਬ ਇਹ ਗਹਿ ਬਿਪਰਨ ਕੀ ਰੀਤ !! ਮੈਂ ਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਇਨਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਤ !! Means when the devotees shall go the other way, he will not be with them otherwise Guru is always with his Sikh.

Then question arises, What are they if not Sikhs ?

Ok. Let us try to clear like this.

Suppose you are given two pouches filled with money. In the first one:- You can enjoy by looking the wealth in it daily, You are master of this wealth. It is yours and belong to you only. You have to take care of it but the only condition is that you shall have no right to spend it. Make yourself smiley and cheerful by looking in it daily.

In the second pouch,You are also master of it and there is not any condition on spending but you are getting bonus on what you spend. The maximum you spend, this wealth shall go in many folds, doubles and doubles daily. Spend as much as you can. Which one would you prefer?

Certainly the second one which allows you to spend as much as you can. This wealth is of Naam Simran and Jaap. Radhaswami restricts it’s followers to share thy name of Lord but Sikhism practices and allows all to share and recite in public gathering/Congregation/Sangat.

Guru Arjan Dev ji says
,”Khavhu kharchahu ral mil bhaiToat na aavey vad do jaai !!” ਖਾਵਹੁ ਖਰਚਹੁ ਰਲ ਮਿਲ ਭਾਈ !! ਤੋਟ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਵਧਦੋ ਜਾਈ !! There will be no shortage of this wealth. By sharing in congregation and or yourself loudly, You become the dearer of Akal Purakh-Waheguru ji. Guru ji further says,”Aap japahu awarah naam japaawahu !!” ਆਪ ਜਪਹੁ ਅਵਰਾ ਨਾਮ ਜਪਾਵਹੁ !! Recite yourself and invite others to recite.

Radhaswami’s disallow this practice and mark disrespect to Gurbaani by anti-concept of it.

As much as you will recite, You will feel yourself near to the almighty Waheguru. Guru ji says,”Charan sharan Guru ek painda jaaye chal Satguru koat painda aage hoye let hain !!” ਚਰਣ ਸ਼ਰਣ ਗੁਰੂ ਏਕ ਪੈਂਡਾ ਜਾਇ ਚਲ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਕੋਟਿ ਪੈਂਡਾ ਆਗੇ ਹੋਇ ਲੇਤ ਹੈਂ !! You just proceed and put your first step on the true path, He will bestow all his happiness upon you and take care of you himself.
Radha swami..???? Are they.. Sikhs?
The sounds that Radhaswamis hear in meditation are the sound created by their mind. These are not shabads of any realm. Radhaswami devotee sits in a squat way, place their hands on their eyes and ears and try to listen first to the sound of a Ghanta (bell). Before sitting in this Aalti Paalti Aasan (Transcendent meditation position) they repeat their Varnatmak (bestowed) Naam for sometime. Then they try to listen to these sounds. First of all when you place hands on your ears, you can hear the sounds of your body. They get excited by this. Then when your mind wants to hear the sound of bell from the right corner of your brain, your mind will create that sound for you. What’s so great about this. This is not the celestial sound that Gurbaani is talking about.
The real celestial sound is that sound that the true Devotee hears after his Dasam Duar opens. This sound is the sound from Sachkhand. It is the sound of mehima or sifat-salaah of Vaheguru going on in Sach Khand. It is bizarre that RS has placed Dasam Duar at the third level. First of all Dasam Duaar cannot be called a region. It is, as the name implies, a doorway from where you can access Sach Khand and hear and feel Sach Khand. How can it be merely third level as RaadhaSuaami suggests.
In Sikhism there is no living man called as Guru.
In Sikhism there are ten Masters and eternal GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI ONLY. At the time of 9 th Master, there were people who would call themselves real Gurus, whose shops were closed eventually, new are opened and will keep opening due to financial and political reasons. As said" caravan goes on and the dogs bark on". Forgive me if any word I have used here and you don't like it. Radhaswamis should not call them Sikhs because Radha Swami word itself says clearly who they are !!!!!!!!.
Money has a lot to do with the false baabaa, false guru syndrome. That and now an almost psychotic need to control others body, mind and soul. Sikhi is not alone in the emergence of human gurus. Many religions that claim One Transcendent God have people like this.

Guruji has words to live by on this topic, !!

Pauree:


Aapae aap varathadhaa aap thaarree laaeean ਆਪਹਿ ਆਪਿ ਵਰਤਦਾ ਆਪਿ ਥਾਰੀ ਲਾਈਅਨ !!

He Himself is all-pervading;

He Himself is absorbed in the profound state of Samaadhi. .....Aapae Hee oupadhaesadhaa guramukh patheeaaeean

He Himself instructs; the Gurmukh is satisfied and fulfilled.

Eaapae oujharr paaeian eik bhagathee laaeian
Some, He causes to wander in the wilderness, while others are committed to His devotional worship.
Jis aap bujhaaeae so bujhasee aapae naae laaeean ਜਿਸ ਆਪਿ ਬੁਝਾਇ ਬ੍ਝ੍ਸੀ ਆਪਿ ਨਾਇ ਲਾਈਅਨ
He alone understands, whom the Lord causes to understand; He Himself attaches mortals to His Name.
Naanak naam dhhiaaeeai sachee vaddiaaee ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮ ਧਿਆਈਏ ਸਾਚੀ ਵਡੀਆਈ 211 sudhh
(O Nanak, meditating on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, true greatness is obtained. 211 Sudh)
More than He and Himself, and more than meditation on His Name is un-necessary. Sikhs do not need another Guru.

Well this is said about the differences of Sikhs and Radhaswamis (who are not Sikhs). Their sect allows all to join and follow their sect irrespective of their (follower’s) religion. The number of Hindu people -joined this sect is no less now-a-days. A few would be aware of the fact that in the beginning of any Hawan, Yagya or any holy per formations,
Lord Ganesha is worshipped first of all-OM SHRI GANESHAY NAMAH !! Ganesh ji is also known as LAMBODAR means the person with long stomach/belly. LADDOO is his favorite of GANESHA. So all the devotees offer LADDOO to their deity in temples. In the other words I can say that one cannot worship empty stomach-BHOOKHE BHAJAN NAA HOI GOPALA, means one cannot concentrate in meditation if he is hungry.
In human body all the deities of Hindus have been placed at different places. The place of Lord Ganesha is in the NABHI/BELLY or you can call it in the stomach as related to feed the hungar. First feed yourself and then perform your Pooja etc.
Maharaj (so-called) CHARANJEET SINGH JI who was well qualified has written in his book that the place of Lord Ganesha is at the human’s ass (GUDA), from where the stool is passed. Can you believe the place of a deity is at such a dirty place-unbelieveable but it is true. I have read the book of him (Maharaj charan jeet Singh’s)
Now the readers may justify the findings of this sect. Hindus and Sikhs may decide if the teachings of this fraud sect, whether taking them away from their religion? Are not they becoming victims of sweet venom distributed to them in sweet of false preachings? Just decide yourself and i request you to follow your own faith/religion.
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94 comments:

  1. I am a simple human being, I just want to know your thoughts as why did not GuruNanak Dev Ji's wrote the Grant Sahib. What was need to wait couple of centuries and Nine more Gurus to finally declare as the only Guru. And then why did Guru Arjun Dev Ji's included Teachings of other Mystics/Gurus suchas Kabir,Namdev etc. who were not Sikhs- were Hindus, Muslims or simply HUMANS-lovers of Lord?
    Sikh- means a diciple.

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  11. waheguru ji ka khalsa ,waheguru ji ke fateh.
    veer ji pehle gal ta aa ke apna koi faraz nahi ke koi shikva ja gila kariye jida ke uppar ik veer ne kita ke guru nanak dev ji ne keo nahi guru granth sahib ji nu likheya baki gurus de keo wait kiti naale eh iillahi bani akal purakh di dargah tu ahi si na ki apni kise de bal san te na hi apni koi faraz aa is uppar koi comment karan da.

    2. ik point hor kta ke kabir ja namdev varge bhagata ji di bani keo vich likhi . veer ji sikh dharam saria layi aa koi v banda aa sakda sikh dharam vich koi pedh paav vali gal nahi hai.eh nahi ke kale sikha di bani a. sare par ,sun , sakde aa.

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  12. wow, we owe thanks to you to clear up this for all sikhs and hindus. This sect is definitely a fraud. Both sikhs and Hindus have very rich heritage while radhaswami guru just copied stuff and instead started asking others to call him guru. The concept of secret mantar is also flawed.

    I'd urge any radhaswami to do his own studies, read up as much as possible before bowing & adhering to radhaswami sect.

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  13. truth is better so hard to disgust .. but this is truth

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  14. U all say one thing,,,,guru maanyo granth.

    How many of you sikhs have really read the granth.
    Do you know even whats writeen in there.???

    The answer would be just a fraction of people. Then on what claims you all are following Sikh religion?

    It is clearly written in guru granth sahib ji that eating meat and drinking liquor is immoral. Even a normal Indian know that most meat and liquor is consumed by sikhs. And then you term it as you are true sikh. First introspect yourselves before saying nething guys.

    You guys fight on religions,,,,Is that preached in granth Sahib Ji. I am sorry if that is written , then that is total pakhand. Because no True God can see His People fighting and dying. Beacuse for True God, Every Human is Equal, He cant preach to fight with other on any matter, But you people are fighting for religions. Shame on you people.

    I am no radha Soami, no Christian, No muslim, No Sikh But I serve every other human with Love Because for me God resides in every Human and every Human is the creature of God....


    Guys ,,,instead of fighting on religions, try to focus on your lives,, and make it worthful enough to be accepted by our God in our Ends.

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  16. Dear All,

    My first expression of comment is for writer of this blog, i feel very sorry for you sir. instead of working on your path, you keep an on others what they are doing. when i read your blog on neta ji, i felt very proud. but Now, you have spoil your image totally.
    means... what are you doing man?????
    If Sri guru Granth sahib ji is Present guru, then why in all gurughars the same respect not given, which would be there if there would be a living guru,
    Guru Granth sahib ji is here to guide us.... that is actual meaning , don't mislead people and focus on your points???
    Let radhasoami's do, what they are doing. they are not harming society. guiding them not dring or eat non-veg and speak truth?? that is what necessary???
    emblems and slogans are not important???? think from nations point of view...
    u said they imitate what hindu's n sikhs were doing??
    and Abt guru nanak ji??? what they did???
    don't they also imitate jesus , mohamad , n others prophets... if they really want to find god?? then why didn't live life like kabir ji n other sanyasi's without having followers?
    but the truth is they have such a charismatic personality, that people started following them..
    i personally feel that there should be no religion, because people like you who are narrow minded, create barriers??

    you tell is it necessary to follow any religion??
    why you believe in any religion?? if follows reply me???

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    1. Mr. Ankit, the revelation on Netaji is in the interest of nation but this blog is written to expose the pakhandi radhaswamis and to alert some ignorant sikhs who are fooled by these pakhandis that they preach from guru Granth sahib ji whereas they them selves have denied of having any faith in guru granth sahib ji.
      There guru Charanjit singh requested in a court to remove the sarup of Guru Granth sahib ji from Dera Bias as they had no faith as guru. I wonder why Sikhs then lure to these pakhandis?

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    2. Hello Ajmer singh ji. Tusi hi oh log ho jinhaa ney Guru arjun dev ji nu ,Guru Teg Bahdur ji nu ,te oh sare santa mahatmaawaa nu shaheed kittaa. Tusi naa hunde taa uhnaa diya kurwania nu koun yaad kardaa. Dhan ho ji tusi. chalo mania oh sahi guru nahi hai je kittay oh sahi hoye taa yaad rakhnaa santo ka dokhi maha hatyara, santo ka dokhi Permeshwar mara. santo ke dokhi garbh joon paray. Bhai bus khich tyari lao.

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  17. mr jack and ajmer singh ji, first of all i want to ack you that why u all peoples are jelous frm radhasoami sect.?? If there are number of followers so whts the problem,?they are not fooling any one.every body have sense,no body is taken frm there home,disciples come frm there own intention.EVERY THING IS WRITTEN WRONG AJMER JI u have not studied dera beas yet.

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    1. Mr ajmer just want publicity like a fool guy always want. Thats it.

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  18. and the naam dan words u r written are totally wrong sir,ajmer ji u r saing that radhasoami sec keeps secrt of naam dan,i wnt to imfrm u that these words are un written and un spoken it can only be feeled during maditation only,,and it is given only by guru.caz guru has that POWER.if we tell this nam dan word to other it will be uselless caz we dont have that power which the guru have. Dear ajmer ji, i love and belive in all religions.radhasoami sec never says to bow front of him , radhasoami sec only says to MADITATE, they say dont maditate gurus body ,maditate only on NAAMDAN,guru only gives direction.when u will rich in side ur body ur soul will follow the light and sound with the help of shabd guru.which is only given by living master,in the ancient just like guru nanak dev ji maharaj,kabir sahib ji,bulleh shah ji, master jesus,were living master at there time to help out peoples from negative power also called KAAL, guru having no effect eighter there followers have 5 or 500, they just maditate to get relax frm 84 lacs junne.MASTER IS MASTER. Guru have great power they dont show miracels,they dont hurt any body,caz they only love there childrens.'je mei lakh gunah kamae, fir bhi tera banda hu'.and one more thing radhasoami sect is not gurbani chor, whts wrng if some body tries to explain the same thing,kuran,bibble,guru granth,gita,every body has write to read and respect.whts wrong if radha soami use the words frm ganth sahib.nothing is wrong.this LOVE .caz there is not any kind of DIFFRENTIATION IN RADHA SOAMI SEC-,

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  19. what a childish manner ajmer ji you have made argue in you useless blogs,so many peoples who are non radhasoami laughing on your this bull shit blog against radha soami sec,i dont know ajmer ji from where you have heared that during the time of listening the sound of bell,khanta,,, and to repeat the varnatmak naam, first off all there is no need to repeat varnatmak naam during this stage.its secret cant share......????????. And no one is fool that after closing there ears and eyes will listen the sound of there own body sound which we imagine the sound is coming from sachkhand.insan itna bhi bevkuf nahi hota ajmer ji. Ajmer ji uss anhad awaz ki dhun hi alag hoti hei.apki study adhuri hie,apko kisi ne bevkuf banya hei.in todays time non radha soami is also coming to dera beas and listening satsang and getting naamdan from present master.i love all holly books.and i do respect, bahas karne se kuch nahi milega jo sach he woh sach hei.aap apna kayal rakhe,dusro ko samjhane ki zarurat nahi hei.ki radha soami sec kya hei in todays word all knows wht they are,and all give respect and obey this sect.jitna dusro badnam karne ki koshish karoge .utna dusro ko fayada hoga,and i do agree with MR. ANKIT who has replied you in blog that ''instead of working on your path,why you keep on others what are they doing???. Ajmer ji reply him..

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    1. Mr ajmer you must visit Agra . Your treatment can done over there.

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  20. and why you are including hindu religion in this matter, you want to brain wash of them.you to are trying to force them to think about,ajmer ji how clevery you have written that radha soami sec says that ganesh ji is at gudda chakkra.and you are saying how can it be at dirty place,for your kind infrmtn.this body is of god.we all knows that bhagwan rom rom me basta he, god is every were. How cleverly you merge hindu lord ganesha and trying to force , that hindu should read this blog and will become AGAINST RADHA SOAMI SEC. Hindu bhaiyo inn faltu bato mie mat ana, those are making barriers and forcing you all to think bad for radha soami act.ganesh ji jaha bhi ho is sharir mei yeh sabh kuck unka hie yeh sab kuch allah ka he,waheguru ka he. Ajmer ji kyu bhad kate ho dusro ko.aap khud kuch nahi kar paye to dusre religion ko kyu bich me late ho?

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  21. what the LIMIT YOU HAVE CROSSED AJMER SINGH ,i have shown your this blog to so many peoples that you are saying'' the disciples of the sect are advised to eat the leftover of their Guru, called Gur-parsaadi, Spit or tasted water etc, thrown out of mouth of Guru to be accepted cheerfully by disciple and to drinks considered nectar.TOTALLY WRONG RUBBISH, ALL ARE LAUGHING ON YOU ,SHAME ON YOU AJMER ,SHAME ON YOU ,hehehehaha you are so jelous from radhasoami sec. how could you think and write like this ,AJMER U R NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A SIKH BECAUSE SIKH NEVER JELOUS FROM OTHERS, YOU ARE SO NARROW MINDED DUFFER.

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    3. Jealous--my foot ! i have exposed these pakhandi radhaswamis. this is what their holy book reveals. go and read your holy book "Saar Bachan" It has all this bull shit written in it.

      See this on your holy book "SAAR BACHAN" as....

      "Gur parsaadi khaah Tere bhale ki kahun.." ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਖਾਹ ਤੇਰੇ ਭਲੇ ਕੀ ਕਹੂੰ ! (saar Bachan).

      "Kiaa charnamrit layi prasaadi ! Haar charaa kar bandagi saadhi...... ਕੀਆ ਚਰਨਾਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਲਈ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ! ਹਾਰ ਚੜਾ ਕਰ ਬੰਦਗੀ ਸਾਧੀ!

      UP TO......

      "Kulli dayi suaami Kul mera udhara ! Janam safal aur tan man sudhara !" ਕੁੱਲੀ ਦਈ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਕੁਲ ਮੇਰਾ ਉਧਾਰਾ ! ਜਨਮ ਸਫਲ ਔਰ ਤਨ ਮਨ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ ! Page 779.

      Any doubt now?

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    4. Doubt on ur mental status. U r like
      This only or u have fallen from top floor in ur childhood. Might be possible must have affected ur brain

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  22. ajmer y there r two types or more gurduwars 1:chamara da gudwara, 2:jatta da gurdwara. Yr shikhi thought this???bullshitt.

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    1. I do criticize them for building gurdwaras in name of their clans. I bow my head in respect at all those places where my guru is seated with honor.
      Jithe jaye bahe mera satguru so than suhawa than suhawa !!

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  24. ajmer singh u r not sikh u r khalistani.

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  25. Part 1:
    Religions are man made, any living being in flesh is sure to decay and pass away. Consciousness is a sign in living beings, no matter or lifeless objects and things made of any of the 5 tattwas which are lifeless, transient and perishable can be called knowledgeable....much less a Guru...because a true Guru is one who has merged himself totally in Him. Like the ten Gurus, why were they true Gurus? Because they were one with Akal Purukh. So the soul is level of consciousness, which can arise and merge in Him. But lifeless objects which are made of paper, stone, metal, plastic or mud.....which are neither conscious of themselves, how come can they save you? Yes, they are sweet up to an extent, because they remind us of Him, ant that is all no more. Those are the real culprits, frauds and beadbis...who believe and force others to believe that a Superconsciouss Soul like Him, can be reduced to lifeless things and objects...shame on you!

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  26. part 2:
    Was not Guru Nanak and the remaining Gurus, human beings in their outer forms? Did not Kabir or Christ came also among others as human beings?
    If He does not come as a human at our level,and create love and devotion in us for Him by singing His glory how shall we know Him? How shall we love Him? Angels are not seen...animals language are not understood....trees and plants can not talk.... and above all, these animals and plants or birds are below the level of a human being.....He can never go below the human level...much less hide himself in inmate objects and things.
    Bani says, Shabad Guru, dhun chela. Which means, that Anhad Shabad, which is the origin of everything, which is the real form of Him....comes to our level in the form a Guru as a human being, and the dhun which is the soul, is the chela, the disciple. Physically the Guru and the disciple have eventually to leave their bodies one day.... so naturally, the body is not the Guru, it is the power in it, the Shabad, that level of consciousness, who is the Guru, and so naturally, the soul is the chela or disciple. So in that way sikh is not who observes certain behavior, customs and conduct outer rituals...but it is one who has fought bravely with the mind and reached the first spiritual stage. If the traditional outer, or physicall meaning of sikh as a disciple was correct...the bani would never say...dhun chela. Dhun means soul, so the soul which is presnt in every living creature, but specially in the human form, to which the privilege of returning back home is given, is the chela of that Guru of that time, in which God is manifested. Only those wadbhagee can recgnize Him in His human form to whom He wants. And this we know has occurred in the past...Prtihvi Chand, had a father and a brother as manifestations of Wahiguru...but in spite of being born among them, and having their darshans almost constantly, even then not a single gram of goodness or purity was found in him, he was wicked, jealous, liar....have we asked ever why to ourselves?
    Because it was not written in his mastak so. So if by being in the physical presence of that ocean of love and wisdom, one does not necessarily profit spiritually...how come lifeless, inmate conscious less objects and things change us or do us any good? At most they can remind us, they are like toys....like when we were children we used to play with airplanes, police cars and ambulances.....they were good as long we were children and immature, but we have to grow, we have to become mature...we grow and need real policemen to rescue us, real airplanes to take us up and far away....in the same way, the transient lifeless and perishable things are toys, but are not the reality. We are only fooling ourselves, then we argue and fight with those who do not think like us...we poor human beings...we ill treated Christ, ill treated Guru Arjun dev...Shamas Tabriz...and so on...we are murakhs. We think Wahiguru has gone asleep or has forgotten His dities...so we start taking justice by our own hands, by ill treating, abusing, beating and killing...and still we say it is in the name of religion...stupid irrational fanatics!!!

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    If Guru Gobind Singh said, Guru maaniyo granth....He did not mean literally, which is commonly believed, but, accept that being as a Guru, of whom qualities and characteristics are described in it(the Granth Sahib), because at that time He was going without appointing any succesor...that was His Mauj...and that, nobody can question it.

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  28. ਇਕ ਗਲ ਕਹਾਂ ਜਨਾਬ ,,,,ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਤਾਂ ਬਹੁਤ ਇਕਠੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਤੁਸੀਂ ...ਪਰ ਅਧੂਰੀ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਆਪਣੀ ਬੀਇਜਾਤੀ ਵੀ ਕਰਵਾ ਸਕਦੀ ਹੈ .....ਤੁਸੀਂ ਇਸ ਵਿਚ ਬਾਬਾ ਜੈਮਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ਦੀ ਤਸਵੀਰ ਦਸੀ ਹੈ ਕ ਓਹ ਅਸਲ ਹੈ ....ਅਸਲ ਵਿਚ ਉਨਾ ਦੀ ਫੋਟੋ ਹੈ ਹੀ ਨੀ ...ਅਗਰ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਉਨਾ ਨੂ ਬਾਨੀ ਚੋਰ ਦਸਦੇ ਹੋ ....ਅਗਰ ਓਹ ਬਾਨੀ ਪਰਦੇ ਨੇ.ਹਰ ਏਕ ਇਨਸਾਨ ਨੂ ਮਾਨਵਤਾ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਪ੍ਰੋਦੇ ਨੇ ...ਤੇ ਉਥੇ ਓਹ ਆਪਣਾ ਨਾਮ ਨੀ ਲੈਂਦੇ .ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦਾ ਨਾਮ ਹੀ ਲੈਂਦੇ ਨੇ...ਕਦੇ ਦਿਲ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਦਰ ਜਾ ਕ ਸਤਸੰਗ ਸੁਨ ਲੈਣਾ ..ਮੈਂ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨੂ ਸਰਬ ਸ੍ਰੇਸ਼ਟ ਸਮ੍ਜ੍ਦਾ ਹਨ.ਪਰ ਏਕ ਗਲ ਦੀ ਸਮਜ ਨਾ ਆਯੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਨੇ ਵੀ ਸਾਰੇ ਭਗਤਾ ਦੀ ਸੰਤਾ ਤੇ ਮਹਾਤਮਾ ਦੀ ਬਾਨੀ ਇਖਾਠੀ ਕਰ ਅਤੇ ਆਪਣੀ ਉਚਾਰੀ ਹੋਈ ਬਾਨੀ ਨੂ ਇਕਹ੍ਥੀ ਕਰ ਕ ਹੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀ ਸਿਰਜਨਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ..ਫਿਰ ਅਗਰ ਹਰ ਮਜਹਬ ਦਾ ਜਾਤ ਬੰਦਾ ਕਹੇਗਾ ...ਕ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਾਡੀ ਬਾਨੀ ਚੂਰੀ ਕਰ ਕ ਗੁਰ੍ਰੁ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਵਿਚ ਪੈ ਹੈ ...ਕੀ ਇਹ ਸਹੀ ਹੈ ...?

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  29. Who is fooling who? Terrorists are made to believe as saints....and Saints are made to believe as frauds... In the holy temple...terrorists were hidden with a lot of munition...that nobody questions... how come so much munition was kept there, that the army had to face hard times...and up till today, these terrorists are taken as saheeds, as if they had done something good....nonsense. Playing and manipulating with the lives of innocent people.
    Real Saints never come to divide humanity, neither they get mixed up in politics, their main purpose is to liberate souls from the clutches of matter, mind, maya and kal with the power of Shabad or Nam and unite these very souls with Wahiguru. This is the only way or method of merging oneself in Satnam...any other thing apart from this is fraud and manmukhta.

    Our real identity and essence is our soul, our spirit. Our bodies are just coverings,which shall be left here with all gross objects. Our real home, our real residence is Sach Khand, our real zaat is Satnam.... not this earth nor a piece of land which we want to make it ours by force...Stupid people do not care for themselves nor ours....and we let them control our lives like puppets. This is a real disgrace and pity, and we happily allow them to do so.
    Remember: Sahib ke Darbar mein kewal bhakti aur pyar, aur kewal bhakti aur pyar main Sahib razee. When we enter the spiritual realms after leaving this plane, nobody will ask us, which country or region do you come from? what was your religión? how much wealth did you gather? how many spouses or children did you have? etc...etc.
    Rather as the bani says: jis vakahr ko lain too aaya, Ram Nam Santan ghar paaya. Which means, that wealth(spiritual one, of Nam Simran) which you have come to gather here, the method of gathering it is got from a Sadhu, a Sant, a Bhagat. And if this real job is not done, one may do anything else, the bani says, you shall be brought in frot of Dharam Rai as a thief, with blackened face, and thrown to the wheel of eighty four... So if one is a real sikh, one has to do what our Gurus came to teach and remind us, and that is the real maryada or rehat, to be absorbed every single moment in Wahiguru through His Nam Simran. Because only that, irrespective of caste creed or colour, is going to make possible the union of teh soul with its Lord Wahiguru Akal Purukh!

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  30. The main problem which is perceived is that, importance is given to the jewel box, not the jewels contained in it. The Granth Sahib is full of love and devotion, which hardly anybody opens and drink the Amrit contained in it and become immortal...but rather most are just worshiping the lifeless, the conscious less container, and thus miss the golden opportunity of the human life to gather as much as possible the dhan of Ram Nam, through Nam Simran, which as the Bani says: Nam amolak ratan hae, poore Satgur paass.

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  31. Just as there is one oxygen to breathe, one Sunlight, one water to quench the whole mankind and it is endless as all things made by Akal Purukh, in teh same way the Gurbani of the Granth Sahib is for all the humanity, even then not a single word is lessened...so how can it be robbed or stolen...how stupid to believe so...isn`t there one God? Sabna jeea ka iko Daata. So how can someone by reading and reciting could decrease it? Fools!!!

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    Just as the balloons due their shape and size to the air filled in it, indepentantly of its colour or the country made in. In the same way, all the living beings owe their life to the spirit or soul consciouss force, in it.
    What is common to all of them? That when they blast, the air will go and mix up in the atmosphere, with its origin, howsoever the rubber balloon may wish it or not.
    In the same way, the ray of divinity in all living creatures is called soul. And like we do not have christian air, or sikh or hindu air....the soul also has no nationality. Colours, sizes and shapes exist as long as the covering is there. But in all of them, the pulling divinity is a ray of Him.
    So it is stupid to say only some have the right to go back to Him, while all others are wrong, because they do not belong to that particular dharma, or caste or creed or colour...

    Suppose, anybody wants to travel abroad, what is required is ticket and visa...the airline is not going to say.... For example Air India is only for Indians...british or americans or chinese can not travel with them...that would be absurd and nonsense...so how come the Granth Sahib is only for sikhs? Could anyone ever say, these foreigners by travelling in Air India are Ait India "chors"? In the same way the Gurbani of our Gurus is for everyone,not just for a handfull of khalsas. Rather it should make us proud as per seeing that anybody can profit from it. If an ocean has no nationality, what nationality can a mamulee drop have? It the atmosphere or oxygen has no nationality, what nationality is the air contained in a balloon going to have? Al these limit have been put by the stupid limited humans. He never said, only khalsas have the right to love and merge in me.
    When He said, rehat pyaree mujko, sikh nahee pyara. What did He mean with this?
    He meant that, those who remember Him through Nam Simran, are dearer to me that those who just observe outer rituals, dogmas and ceremonies. Remembering Him through Nam Simran is the real rehat. Otherwise as the bani says, you may do everthing else like fastings, rituals, pilgrimages, idol worship and a endless list of outer things, all that is just as decorating a dead corpse.
    The problem is nobody is bothered to see what is written in the bani. They go the easy way instead, by bowing to it. No. That will lead you nowhere. Salvation is got by doing what is written in the Bani. And what is that? What is Anand Sahib all about? Waht is clearly written in the Japji Sahib? They mention to the Shabad, the dynamic projection of Wahiguru. That is why it is written: Suniye, dukh paap sabh naas.
    But, suniye what? Suniye that Shabad which is resounding in each one of us, the 24 hours non stop. By listening to it, all our sins are wiped away, according to Guru Nanak. This is the simple trutha nd essence of the Granth Sahib, but how many of us are aware about this fact and truth? We do not want to listen the simple truths...we want complications and ritual and maya and outwardness...when the ruhaniyat is subtle and is reached by going inwards...that is the real pilgrimage. By going inside, the real temple made by Him,and for Him to be worshipped there, without any inteference and manipulation of the mean and limited man.

    Loving children as seen in the video above, the ignorant say, it is sickening, but seeing terrorist with weapons and munition, these vey stupid people say, oh, they are "sants" or "saheeds". How much brainwashed and twisted are they...manipulated like puupets by these fanatics.

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  33. 2/2 031211
    Wahiguru is not reached by killing or taking lives, whether of others or of oneself by commiting suicidal terrorist acts.
    Some may argue, Guru Gobind Singh also took weapons and fought. Let us not fool oureslves, He was the Lord Himself, by doing so, He was one with Wahiguru, anything He did was perfect and correct, but we are yet far away from Wahiguru, we have not reached that level of consciousness, so we are still manmukhs, anything we do , we shall have to pay heavily fot it.
    But by only one way, and that is by merging in Him through His Nam Simaran according to the teachings of our Gurus.
    Each line, each page of the Garnth Sahib is nothing, but a particle of His limitless glory and also of His manifestations as a Guru in the human form.

    Bin Satgur, ghor andher.
    Mat koee bhulay sansaar, bin Satgur, koee na utraas paar.

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  34. ajmer singh if you dont know the history of dera beas then u havE no right to mark any one ,I IDIOT AJMER .!!!!!!

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    1. Well i do need to argue with you ignorant fools, read the history in the blog which is already given. What else do you want me to add?

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    2. Ajmer singh ji chaddo tusi te granth sahib vich likhia gala te hi yakin nai krde lagda.. Horr ki karna tusi. Tohanu te eh v nai pta k guru manio granth kisne te kado likhia. Je pta hai te dasso. Do you knw guru maneo granth is not in granth sahib or in dasam granth. Some guy named prehlad singh wrote it after guru gobing singh ji's departure. He was born six years after guru ji' left this world. How can you believe in someone else who did nt even see guru ji. I would believe in guru granth sahib rather than believing in someone who did not see guru ji. I knw punjabi and know whats written in it. So why should I rely on bhai prehlad singh who explained everything in his own way.

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  35. hahaha ajmer singh I just wana say you that , u cant even touch the shadow of my master.kinne aaye te kinne bhonkan wale chale gaye.the photo you have tagged in this blog.it seems to be u r sooooooo jealous form RSSB.
    my foot.we respect all relegions.& DONT GO ON RSSB TEACHING "CAZ THERE MAIN TARGET IS TO TEACH THE JOURNEY OF SOUL" U WILL NEVER UNDER SATAND CAZ U HAVE ONLY BOOKISH KNOWLEDGE. I ask u one single question "If u are so irritated from RSSB ,then PAUSE THEM NOW.CAN YOU????? answer me un YES or NO.

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  36. ajmer singh the people like you,just hang on NET & try to insult others.if u have guts then stop RSSB. I know very very well U cant do that.
    Ok go on. hang on hang on, on NET.
    tu isse layak hei, udda tereto ta kuj hona nahi, hahahahahaha.
    jalo jalo hor jalo, sadd sadd k jiyo.burrrararararara

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  37. The devotees who wish to walk on fourth stage can only describe this stage of spirituality which is not known to your con master. He is not aware of spirituality, just zero.They are paid agents of Indian govt to weaken the Sikh panth. It's not a chat room where you come and bark, if you have some guts or knowledge then share and comment, or get lost.
    I am a Sikh person and have faith in fearless Akal Purakh so not bothered of your RSSB. They also have been given a befitted reply.

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    1. ajmer singh I have that much of guts were u can't even think. first of all read my all the comments above , have you readn those.??? you have wriiten "the place of Lord Ganesha is at the human’s ass (GUDA), from where the stool is passed. Can you believe the place of a deity is at such a dirty place-unbelieveable "
      what unblvbl?? the whole body is of god. and the stool is passed out side, but lord ganesh is in side aur body i.e. it can be seen only by opening THIRD EYE. samjhya tere nal ki behas karni jeda baharli pooja karda peya a. under vad k vekh le murkha.apni teesri aakh khol. teri kitho khul jani a. teri ta matti mari gai a.SADDE SHARIR CH TAKAT NAHI KI RABB NU VEKH LAVE, SADDI SURAT YA RUH CH TAKAT HUNDI A OS RABB YA ALLAH NU VEKHAN DI. same for lord ganesh also. so stool passed through body and surt passed through the help of shabd.SHARIR SHARIR HE SURAT SURAT HE, SAMJEYA. LALLOO LAL

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    2. Ajmer singh ji tusi Granth sahib prde ho par parh ke bhul jande ho us vich ki likhia.. Sant jad v dunia te aaunde ne ohna nal asi lok bura saluk karde haan but oh kisse da gussa nai krde but aapne aap nu hi bura kehnde han. Sanu te eh v pta nai asi kis nichli jooni ton aaye han te insan ton pehla asi ki ki galat kam kite te aje v kari ka rahe haan. Jive ke santa di nindia te bura bhala but oh fir v saada gussa nai karde. Bhai kuch v bolan ton pehla ke guru granth sahib nu mande ho ta parh ke us te amal jarur karia karo. Kado guru sahib insan de roop san udo ohna nu v koi guru manda nai si. Hun jina marji manni jao koi fayda nai jado oh insan roop ch san udo te pathar te gaala kadhia ohna nu. Tusi apne ap nu juada sianr tr dujia nu murakh na samjho parmatma hamesha insan roop ch hi aaunda insaana nu jagaun layi. This is why Guru ji said "satguru niranjan soi, manukh ka kar roop na jaan. Dont take him as an ordinary man he is God himself. Its just our filthy mind that does not see His true form. Once you see his true form you will be asking for his forgiveness.
      Take care and stop criticising others as hum nai chanagey bura nai koi. Je aap change hoyiye ta koi bura nazar nai aaunda ji. Ajmer singh ji aaapne aap nu sudharo te dharma jaata paata ton utte chukko aapne aap nu. Parmatma de ghar ch ehna cheeza da kisse nai puchna. Guru bina kich nai ho sakda eh sab gala ik insan de roop ch guru hi das sakda hai. Je insan de roop ch guru banke aaun di jarurat na hundi ta guru nanak sahib te horr sare guru sant mahatama nu insan ban ke aaun di ki lorh si. Parmatma te guru sahib de insan de roop ch aaun ton pehla b haiga c te parmatma nu yaad karn de word like allah, ram satnam, hari, jagdish, parmatma, narayan, niranjan and so many. Fir guru sahib nu aaun di ki jarurat c ehna saria names nal hi guru sahib ne parmatma nu yaad kita hai. Asi v kar sakde c but guru hamesha insan de roop vich hi aaue han te aaunge. Thats why its written in Granth sahib ji bin satguru koi nam na paye prabh aisi banat bnayi hai.

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  38. ajmer singh what did you said he is zero, ooohhhahaha, my master is perfect,I know very well, he never says to bow your head in fron of him,he always says to meditate, & to listen surat & shabad.JEDA KI TU ASS GAL NU HOR PASSE LAI JANDA PEA A.& the photo you have tagged of my guru (without turben) SOOOO CUTE. I LOVE THIS PHOTO VERY MUCH.THANX.

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    1. Master is always been soo cute. Bt these fool people cant understand as they lack of main part I.e. brain.

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  39. AJMER SINGH & ALL OTHERS LISTEN :-Land was purchased in 7 crore Rupees and proper registration was done and with full respect Baba ji' guru granth sahib was placed to other place with respect and land was allotted to place Baba ji 's granth.But media and other religious parties made a propaganda that dera occupied land.its rubbish....Even Baba gurinder singh did ardaas and Guru Granth Sahib was respect fully placed to other place..
    SAMJHYA AJMER SINGH , JA HOR BHADKA LOKKA NU. JA JA. JA

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    1. To whom did your Pakhandi Guru did ardas? To which God i mean because the Radhaswamis do not have faith in Sri Granth Sahib ji, the Guruship of SGGS was denied by former pakhandi Charan Singh. How could a devotee of other faith could have faith and do ardas before Sri Guru Granth Sahib?

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    2. Hello Ajmer singh ji. Tusi hi oh log ho jinhaa ney Guru arjun dev ji nu ,Guru Teg Bahdur ji nu ,te oh sare santa mahatmaawaa nu shaheed kittaa. Tusi naa hunde taa uhnaa diya kurwania nu koun yaad kardaa. Dhan ho ji tusi. chalo mania oh sahi guru nahi hai je kittay oh sahi hoye taa yaad rakhnaa santo ka dokhi maha hatyara.

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    3. Ajmer sigh radhawa you said " To whom did your Pakhandi Guru did ardas? To which God i mean because the Radhaswamis do not have faith in Sri Granth Sahib ji, the Guruship of SGGS was denied by former pakhandi Charan Singh. How could a devotee of other faith could have faith and do ardas before Sri Guru Granth Sahib???

      kakke who told you tha RSSB has no faith in Guru granth sahiban ji,
      ajmer ji RSSB has faith in Guru granth sahiban ji, & about charn singh ji maharaj , he dinied not because of not to worship, but because only a living master can give mukti. you haven't replied my earlier question . see my post .... forst give those question , fer aake gal kari.

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  40. Is Babji Gurinder Singh Dhillon a Perfect Master?:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPBGKSrP5Xo

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  41. mr.ajmer singh ji u hav no ryt to say a single wrd abt RSSB...evry1 has there own sense of humour to diffrentiate between right or wrong....they r not forcing anyone....and u know what ur d biggest fool i have evr seen..u posted a picture of my master wdout turban...u hav no idea wat u hav done...how dare u do dat...dis is not d way to express ur anger....u r a literate man n wat u r doing is foolishness...u cn express ur feelings through ur wrds bt u hav no ryt to do dat...so plss remove dat picture.......

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  43. I damn bother if he goes to hell. I just mean to post this blog that my Sikh brothers may come to know the facts that Radhaswamis are not Sikhs and they falsely translate the meanings of hymns of Sri Guru granth sahib ji for their vested interests. I have described 20 differences which can open eyes of blinds also.
    All those who fool the ignorant devotees of any religion are enemies of religion. Guru Sahib rightly calls them as --- OYE HAR KE SANT NAA JANIYE BANARAS KE THUGG !!
    Therefore i do not have any leniency or soft corner for these fakes.

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    1. Mr.wtever I understand u HV right 2express ur views in a democratic country like India BT u don't have any right 2 publish fake stories about anyone be it babaji n I will surely pray god 2 give a bit of brain 2fool like u

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  44. Ajmer Singh I feel Very Bad Ur Age Cross 50 n still closed
    OYE HAR KE SANT NAA JANIYE BANARAS KE THUGG !!.......Eh lines Saade waste hi likhiya jde tak asi akha nhi kholde asi us satgur nu nhi pehchaan skaange.Pag ya Mustache rakhan naal koi sikh ni ban janda andar us Malik d tadap v jaroori ha..... have not enough time to argument wid u Just Rise up n Think ki pta Malik d Rehmat Ho jaawe Tuhaade ute....Baaki Blog Vdia Design Kita External Template Use kro....N Apply For Google Adsense Paise Mil Jange Do...God Bless You

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  45. raku john bus kar yaar...oda dimag khusk ho geya,, odi daal ch gheo paa deo

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  46. azmer bae gharwali to tang aa.. daal ch gheo paa deo

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  47. azmer nu uganda,,bermuda,,ya baramulla bhejo...jaldi jis jagah piche da lagda othe bhejo,, baki azmer khud samjhdar aa

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  48. Ajmer singh kuch v boln to pehlan . Pehlan beas aa ke dekh. Aapne internet vicho bahar aa. Naal apna dimag da ilaz kerwa. J free vich kerwana tan das di. Beas hospital wicho ho jauga.

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